Material Greek Ascoloy - 418

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Greek Ascoloy - 418

Type Martensitic PH Stainless Chromium ~12% Tungsten ~2.5%

Material Overview

Greek Ascoloy - alloy 418, cross-referenced to AMS 5508 and UNS S41800 - is one of the earliest martensitic precipitation-hardening stainless steels developed specifically for jet-engine turbine hardware. Introduced in the 1940s alongside the first generation of American jet engines, it was engineered to hold useful mechanical strength and creep resistance at compressor and early-stage turbine temperatures while still forging and machining like a conventional martensitic stainless. Its chemistry adds tungsten - an unusual choice for a stainless grade - alongside chromium and a small nickel addition, giving it better elevated-temperature strength and stress-corrosion resistance than a plain 410/420-type martensitic stainless.

Historically, Greek Ascoloy is significant as one of the predecessors to the modern family of precipitation-hardening martensitic stainless steels used throughout aerospace today. It saw wide use in early jet-engine compressor blades and vanes, steam and gas turbine buckets, and other high-stress rotating hardware before later PH grades (17-4PH, 15-5PH, and similar) largely superseded it in new designs. It still turns up in legacy turbine equipment, vintage aircraft restoration, and some industrial turbine applications where the original specification calls for it.

International Designation Equivalents

Standard Designation
SAE/AMS 5508
UNS S41800

Chemical Composition

Element Amount
Iron (Fe) Balance (~80%)
Chromium (Cr) 12%
Tungsten (W) 2.5%
Nickel (Ni) 2%
Manganese (Mn) 0.4%
Silicon (Si) 0.3%
Molybdenum (Mo) 0.2%
Carbon (C) 0.15%

All values fall within the published AMS 5508 composition ranges. Minor/trace elements not published in the source record are omitted rather than estimated.

Machinability Explained

Greek Ascoloy machines in much the same family as other martensitic PH stainless steels, with the added complication of its tungsten content. Tungsten raises hot hardness and abrasion resistance - useful in service, but it also increases flank wear on the cutting tool compared with a plain 410/420 martensitic stainless, and it contributes to the alloy's tendency to work-harden if the tool rubs instead of shearing cleanly. Machining is normally done in the annealed or lightly tempered condition, since the alloy's strength and cutting forces climb substantially once it is aged to its final precipitation-hardened hardness for service.

Low thermal conductivity relative to plain carbon steel concentrates heat at the tool tip rather than carrying it off in the chip, so consistent feed rates and adequate coolant matter more here than on an ordinary alloy steel. Sharp, positive-rake tooling is generally preferred over light, hesitant cuts, which tend to promote built-up edge and accelerate notch wear at the depth-of-cut line. Because this is a legacy grade rarely seen outside overhaul and restoration work, machinists encountering it for the first time should expect behavior closer to a tungsten-alloyed 410 stainless than to a modern PH grade like 17-4PH.

Recommended Cutting Speeds

Application Vc (m/min) Vc (SFM)
Turning 100-200 330-660
Milling 75-150 250-490
Parting 65-125 210-410
Grooving 90-175 390-520
Drilling 90-175 390-520

General starting-point ranges for annealed/lightly tempered martensitic PH stainless of this type. Actual optimal speeds depend on tool grade, coating, rigidity, and coolant strategy.

Recommended FM Carbide Grades by Operation

Turning

Grade Coating ISO Application Range
FM324 PVD M10-M20
FM2553 CVD M30

Parting / Grooving

Grade Coating ISO Application Range
FM2543 CVD P20
FM2553 CVD M30

Milling

Grade Coating ISO Application Range
FM125 PVD M15-M35

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Recommended Insert Cutting-Edge Geometry

Honing Size 0.03-0.05 mm / 0.001-0.002"
Rake Angle 9°-11°
Land Angle Positive
Land Width 0.20-0.30 mm / 0.008-0.012"